Firesofdoom
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Post by Firesofdoom on Jan 17, 2016 17:22:44 GMT
I don't know if someone has said this yet, but because of free speech, I don't think it should be bannable to support Nazism or any other ideology, as long as you make no threats and respect all the other forum rules regarding insults and threats. Other then that, the rest of the rules seem pretty good to me.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 17, 2016 17:34:32 GMT
I don't know if someone has said this yet, but because of free speech, I don't think it should be bannable to support Nazism or any other ideology, as long as you make no threats and respect all the other forum rules regarding insults and threats. Other then that, the rest of the rules seem pretty good to me. But in some countries the support of Nazism is not allowed.
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Post by Firesofdoom on Jan 17, 2016 18:16:04 GMT
I don't know if someone has said this yet, but because of free speech, I don't think it should be bannable to support Nazism or any other ideology, as long as you make no threats and respect all the other forum rules regarding insults and threats. Other then that, the rest of the rules seem pretty good to me. But in some countries the support of Nazism is not allowed. True enough, so I guess I will rephrase that. We should allow any user to support of Nazism and other Ideologies as long at they A) are respectful about their beliefs and don't make threats or insults based on them, and B) Their beliefs are not illegal in their place of residence
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Post by lordroel on Jan 17, 2016 18:34:09 GMT
But in some countries the support of Nazism is not allowed. True enough, so I guess I will rephrase that. We should allow any user to support of Nazism and other Ideologies as long at they A) are respectful about their beliefs and don't make threats or insults based on them, and B) Their beliefs are not illegal in their place of residence And how are you going to control them, if they believe in what they believe.
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Post by Firesofdoom on Jan 17, 2016 19:16:47 GMT
True enough, so I guess I will rephrase that. We should allow any user to support of Nazism and other Ideologies as long at they A) are respectful about their beliefs and don't make threats or insults based on them, and B) Their beliefs are not illegal in their place of residence And how are you going to control them, if they believe in what they believe. A few things, first off, I will not be controlling them, since I am not an administrator or a staff member. Regardless, the idea was, if they believe in Nazism or other radical beliefs, they are aloud to, so long as they respect everyone equally on the forums. The moment they threaten someone or insult them, they get the same punishment as anyone else would. That way, people could Believe in what they want to, as long as they treat everyone the same.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 17, 2016 19:40:13 GMT
And how are you going to control them, if they believe in what they believe. A few things, first off, I will not be controlling them, since I am not an administrator or a staff member. Regardless, the idea was, if they believe in Nazism or other radical beliefs, they are aloud to, so long as they respect everyone equally on the forums. The moment they threaten someone or insult them, they get the same punishment as anyone else would. That way, people could Believe in what they want to, as long as they treat everyone the same. That why i made the choice on my forum not to allow support of Nazism ore Holocaust denial, what this forum does is the decision of the admin and staff.
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Post by Huehuecoyotl on Jan 17, 2016 19:41:27 GMT
"Free speech" notwithstanding, Nazis make communities unsafe for the people endangered by their beliefs (i.e. Jewish people and people of color, among others) just by virtue of their presence, regardless of how "civil" they are. What kind of message does it send when we allow them into our community?
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Post by Krall on Jan 17, 2016 21:56:45 GMT
I don't know if someone has said this yet, but because of free speech, I don't think it should be bannable to support Nazism or any other ideology, as long as you make no threats and respect all the other forum rules regarding insults and threats. Other then that, the rest of the rules seem pretty good to me. Support of Nazism is inherently support of racism, and I will not tolerate it. People will not be banned for simply believing these things though; only for expressing their support on this forum. If someone is found to hold prejudicial beliefs but never mentions them on this forum then they are free to use this site, but expressing support for prejudice is uncivil and intolerable.
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Post by Firesofdoom on Jan 17, 2016 22:25:27 GMT
I don't know if someone has said this yet, but because of free speech, I don't think it should be bannable to support Nazism or any other ideology, as long as you make no threats and respect all the other forum rules regarding insults and threats. Other then that, the rest of the rules seem pretty good to me. Support of Nazism is inherently support of racism, and I will not tolerate it. People will not be banned for simply believing these things though; only for expressing their support on this forum. If someone is found to hold prejudicial beliefs but never mentions them on this forum then they are free to use this site, but expressing support for prejudice is uncivil and intolerable. All I was trying to argue was that they shouldn't be banned just for saying they Believe in Nazism. I'm pretty much fine if you ban nazis for saying they're nazis, I just have a different opinion on the issue. As a side note, other than that, the rules look pretty good
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Post by Krall on Jan 17, 2016 22:48:28 GMT
All I was trying to argue was that they shouldn't be banned just for saying they Believe in Nazism. I'm pretty much fine if you ban nazis for saying they're nazis, I just have a different opinion on the issue. As a side note, other than that, the rules look pretty good I don't understand why you're making a distinction between people saying they believe in Nazism and people saying that they're Nazis - they amount to the same thing, surely?
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Post by Firesofdoom on Jan 17, 2016 23:35:39 GMT
All I was trying to argue was that they shouldn't be banned just for saying they Believe in Nazism. I'm pretty much fine if you ban nazis for saying they're nazis, I just have a different opinion on the issue. As a side note, other than that, the rules look pretty good I don't understand why you're making a distinction between people saying they believe in Nazism and people saying that they're Nazis - they amount to the same thing, surely? Accidental distinction, I apologize. What I met Is I'm fine with people saying they are nazis as long as they do not act on those beliefs, whole you Apparently, are not. In any case, we have different opinions on the issue, but I'm willing to live with the rules as they are. Still better than AH.com XD
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Post by Krall on Jan 17, 2016 23:57:36 GMT
Accidental distinction, I apologize. What I met Is I'm fine with people saying they are nazis as long as they do not act on those beliefs, whole you Apparently, are not. In any case, we have different opinions on the issue, but I'm willing to live with the rules as they are. Still better than AH.com XD Alright, fair enough.
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