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Post by Mooncat on Dec 18, 2015 21:11:38 GMT
What this forum needs is a thread dedicated to the wacky world of British politics. Here we can place bets on how many seats Labour will lose at the next General Election, whether the Out Campaign will benefit from having Nigel Farage amongst its ranks and, of course, Scottish independence (the dream shall never die ).
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Post by orvillethird on Dec 19, 2015 0:44:12 GMT
Well, Labour is doing quite well, given the significant swing to it in the Oldham West by-election. (Of course, the media's mostly not mentioning that.) Then again, more seats shifted to the left than to the right* in the last election, and the Tories wound up governing with fewer seats than many previous Tory governments- or Labour governments- or the Coalition that preceded this. (Again, the media is not mentioning this.)
* I'd be glad to provide the figures. To be fair, the SNP landslide does skew things, but even discounting Scotland, the rightward shift is minimal.
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Post by Mooncat on Dec 19, 2015 11:37:10 GMT
That's true, the LibDem vote collapse did benefit the Tories more than Labour though. At least the electorate seems to be fed up with the shiny, snake-talking politician - I predict Corbyn and Farage will make a big dent.
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Post by orvillethird on Dec 19, 2015 15:48:33 GMT
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Post by fluttersky on Dec 30, 2015 6:55:01 GMT
Nigel Farage challenges Jeremy Corbyn to a televised debate on EU membership
Well, this is interesting. Wonder if Corbyn will accept the debate offer.
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Post by orvillethird on Dec 31, 2015 2:19:07 GMT
On the one hand, it would be a good idea to have a debate. OTOH, I'm from the opposite end of the spectrum from Farage, and have far different reasons for doing so- but I'm for Farage's call for leaving the EU. (That said, I'm not for the Farage/Cameron position of leaving the ECHR.)
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Post by Mooncat on Jan 5, 2016 16:58:42 GMT
Corbyn's not even pro-EU, Farage should at least engage someone undoubtedly Europhilic like Clegg.
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Post by fluttersky on Jan 5, 2016 21:30:30 GMT
Corbyn's not even pro-EU, Farage should at least engage someone undoubtedly Europhilic like Clegg. Nick Clegg is irrelevant nowadays. I suspect Farage decided to challenge Corbyn precisely because he's not strongly pro-EU. Corbyn does support the In campaign, afaik, but certainly isn't the most ardent defender of the EU.
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Post by Mooncat on Jan 5, 2016 23:09:51 GMT
Corbyn's not even pro-EU, Farage should at least engage someone undoubtedly Europhilic like Clegg. Nick Clegg is irrelevant nowadays. I suspect Farage decided to challenge Corbyn precisely because he's not strongly pro-EU. Corbyn does support the In campaign, afaik, but certainly isn't the most ardent defender of the EU. I think Corbyn's decided not to campaign for In? He opposed the EU when on the backbenches and now his policy is more wanting strong EU reform. As far as I'm aware he's waiting to see what David Cameron brings back next month before he makes a big decision.
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Post by Jasen777 on Jan 6, 2016 0:48:39 GMT
Please don't ban Trump. But steal his passport and don't let him leave please.
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Post by Southpaw on Jan 6, 2016 21:58:33 GMT
I do hope Britain votes to stay in the EU.
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Post by orvillethird on Jan 7, 2016 2:51:28 GMT
I do hope Britain votes to stay in the EU. I hope it leaves-though not for the reasons Cameron and Farage do. The EU treats austerity as a feature, not a bug, per Robert "Father of the Euro" Mundell. Austerity has not worked to aid Europe's economic recovery (with the possible exception of one thing that Europe is being pushed hard to raise, despite a lack of need- military spending. Only one EU member is seriously threatened by an expansionist neighbor, and that's Greece.)
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Post by Mooncat on Jan 9, 2016 17:53:20 GMT
I hope Scotland votes IN and the rest of the UK votes OUT meaning there will be a bigger drive for independence
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Post by heliosmegistos on Jan 9, 2016 22:58:27 GMT
I hope Scotland votes IN and the rest of the UK votes OUT meaning there will be a bigger drive for independence What prey tell is so wrong with been or the UK and thus glorious Britannia.
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Post by Mooncat on Jan 9, 2016 23:05:10 GMT
I hope Scotland votes IN and the rest of the UK votes OUT meaning there will be a bigger drive for independence What prey tell is so wrong with been or the UK and thus glorious Britannia. Scotland the rest of the UK are different political animals. Scotland needs to pursue it's own place in the world stage. Down with wastemonster I say!
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Post by orvillethird on Jan 10, 2016 3:45:21 GMT
I hope Scotland votes IN and the rest of the UK votes OUT meaning there will be a bigger drive for independence What prey tell is so wrong with been or the UK and thus glorious Britannia. I personally favor self-determination as the major reason. My big beef with the UK besides giving Scotland more power to decide its own destiny is being closer to the views of the SNP than New Labour or the Tories. (Of course, I do hope HM remains head of state, as she's the best possible figurehead, and someone I trust more than Blair, Cameron, Clegg and Salmond.)
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Post by orvillethird on Mar 4, 2016 14:25:09 GMT
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Post by Krall on Mar 4, 2016 20:35:17 GMT
Are there any polls on how people might vote in the EU referendum? I'm a bit disconnected from the news, despite being a Brit myself. D:
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Mar 4, 2016 23:24:09 GMT
I do have to wonder: How would Britain leaving the EU affect the rest of it?
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Post by orvillethird on Mar 5, 2016 22:38:13 GMT
It might make the EU a lot smaller. A Brexit would almost guarantee a Grexit. (And if Scotland breaks off, we could see Catalonia doing the same...and perhaps even if Scotland does not...)
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