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Post by Mooncat on Dec 19, 2015 19:55:03 GMT
Here's the thread for unpopular political opinions. Please no personal attacks or anything decidedly offensive. I've got quite a few unpopular political opinions so here's just a small number of them. - I'm a hardscore Scottish nationalist - I don't even care about the economic conditions
- The modern, pacfistic lef is spineless and a poor successor to the left of the early 20th century (which stood up to fascism)
- (as a second-generation son of Muslim immigrants) I am against uncontrolled immigration and believe that immigrants should integrate into the host culture
- The state should nationalise pretty much all key industries
- Democracy is pretty flawed and I don't think the vast majority of people know what is good for them (case in point, the majority of Scots who voted No )
- The death penalty is suitable for some crimes
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Post by contraindicative on Dec 22, 2015 10:24:49 GMT
Euthanasia for all who wish it...
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Post by heliosmegistos on Dec 22, 2015 13:35:53 GMT
Monarchy...
Corporal Punishment for unruly/naughty children (not by teachers, only by parents or aunts or uncles eg family with proper justification)...
Rejection of National Selfdetermination without sufficent grounds eg opression and persecution (sorry Scotland you have no ground to stand on, Tibet you do)...
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Post by Rhand on Dec 29, 2015 17:27:26 GMT
I think Trump is pretty funny.
I've decided to vote for Cruz though.
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Post by ToixStory on Dec 30, 2015 4:14:21 GMT
I personally think these threads are awful ideas and probably shouldn't be allowed since they tend to spawn flame wars. I guess if I have to state my own unpopular political opinion, then, it'd be that I don't see anything wrong with stricter controls to keep people from pirating media.
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Post by Hominid on Dec 30, 2015 5:00:58 GMT
-I don't agree with the idea of raising the smoking age to 21 which seems to be popular in the US these days.
-I'm open the idea of eliminating the voting age entirely and replacing it with a mixture of demeny voting, and letting children vote if they can form their own opinions. I don't necessarily support it, but I'm open to it.
-I think environmental issues should be the main priority right now.
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Dec 30, 2015 5:25:52 GMT
Probably the only thing close to an unpopular opinion I have is to think capital punishment should stay legal (almost impossible to go forward with, but legal). Also I think guns should remain legal (more emphasis on pistols and hunting rifles), although that's not exactly an unpopular belief in my country.
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Post by Hominid on Dec 31, 2015 3:56:34 GMT
Probably the only thing close to an unpopular opinion I have is to think capital punishment should stay legal (almost impossible to go forward with, but legal). Also I think guns should remain legal (more emphasis on pistols and hunting rifles), although that's not exactly an unpopular belief in my country. Neither of those are unpopular in the United States.
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Dec 31, 2015 4:05:54 GMT
Probably the only thing close to an unpopular opinion I have is to think capital punishment should stay legal (almost impossible to go forward with, but legal). Also I think guns should remain legal (more emphasis on pistols and hunting rifles), although that's not exactly an unpopular belief in my country. Neither of those are unpopular in the United States. Depends on where you live and what ideology you follow. As someone leading towards the Democrats, both of these are no-nos. If I remember correctly, my state also banned capital punishment *does some research* yes, it is banned here.
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Post by orvillethird on Dec 31, 2015 15:37:11 GMT
I think self-determination should be accepted and that territorial integrity, when it conflicts with self-determination, should be chucked. I think that the Iraq War was prima facie illegal, numerous leaders knew Iraq did NOT have WMD but went to war anyway, and those who did are war criminals and should be treated as such. (This also includes those who launched Desert Fox in 1998.) I think balanced budgets are important most times. I think the EU should be dissolved or reformed to end the forced austerity policies.
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Post by Mooncat on Jan 5, 2016 16:59:30 GMT
I think self-determination should be accepted and that territorial integrity, when it conflicts with self-determination, should be chucked. I think that the Iraq War was prima facie illegal, numerous leaders knew Iraq did NOT have WMD but went to war anyway, and those who did are war criminals and should be treated as such. (This also includes those who launched Desert Fox in 1998.) I think balanced budgets are important most times. I think the EU should be dissolved or reformed to end the forced austerity policies. Looks like we agree on a lot of things
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Post by Southpaw on Jan 6, 2016 14:52:34 GMT
I think quotas should be imposed on EU refugee intake, even from Syria. I know it's not exactly controversial among the public, but this forum might think differently.
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Post by shamiboy on Jan 6, 2016 15:58:59 GMT
I think that Libertarianism is a ideology for naïve people.
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Post by Rhand on Jan 6, 2016 21:18:19 GMT
I think that Libertarianism is a ideology for naïve people. I get frustrated with market-worship and scientism amongst my Libertarian friends, but I also see much of the latter among Marxists and American Liberals.
I think the stereotype about Libertarians being naïve is because many of them skew young, and we all tend to be more naïve when we're young. Pure, unadulterated Libertarianism is their way of rebelling against the world, much as Marxism-Leninism is for other kids.
I was a Libertarian as well when I was younger, but I slowly made peace with the establishment as I grew older. Now, I think Conservatism and Libertarianism are two sides of the same coin. Both feed off and into the other. When Libertarianism grows wild and becomes deleterious to society, then Conservatism steps in to offer reasonable correction. When Conservatism grows hidebound and impinges on personal freedoms, Libertarianism sets it back on the right path.
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Post by AYC on Jan 6, 2016 21:21:01 GMT
I think that Libertarianism is a ideology for naïve people. It's based around assumptions about the market that are just not true in practice. Much of the ideology seems to be based on rationalizing or justifying its inherently sociopathic nature.
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Post by zar on Jan 7, 2016 5:35:49 GMT
Marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman.
The age of consent should be raised to 25.
Pornography should be banned.
Anyone who uses drugs should be put to death.
The entirety of human history consists of a struggle between platonism and aristotelianism. An elite wing of empiricists plans to take over the world through the denial of absolute truth and the corruption of true wisdom. Only enlightened individuals can understand this.
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Post by Krall on Jan 7, 2016 8:23:56 GMT
Marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman. The age of consent should be raised to 25. Pornography should be banned. Anyone who uses drugs should be put to death. The entirety of human history consists of a struggle between platonism and aristotelianism. An elite wing of empiricists plans to take over the world through the denial of absolute truth and the corruption of true wisdom. Only enlightened individuals can understand this. This thread is for unpopular opinions you actually hold, rather than just any opinions that would be unpopular.
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Post by Mathuen on Jan 7, 2016 18:25:44 GMT
Not exactly political but it influences some of my politics. The protection of cultural, historical, and philisophical artifacts is more important than the protection of technological and scientific artifacts.
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Post by petros on Jan 8, 2016 1:48:38 GMT
Honestly? You want a generally unpopular and politically incorrect opinion that I hold?
I don't agree with circumcision of infants. Under any but medically necessary circumstances. So I don't agree with cosmetic surgery on infants.
Any other opinion I have I can have a reasonable discussion with someone about it. When it comes to circumcision, I find myself on the side of people I don't agree with on everything else, while liberals don't even want to continue the conversation once it's brought up.
This is my first post here... So please understand that it's not a general opposition to circumcision in principle, it's an opposition to unnecessary surgery on infants in principle. If anyone honestly thinks I'm anti-Semitic for this, I can only assure you that I am not, and I'll be happy to talk more about it. Not by PM, in this thread or another started for it.
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Post by zar on Jan 8, 2016 7:06:42 GMT
This thread is for unpopular opinions you actually hold, rather than just any opinions that would be unpopular. I was aware of this. I will go into some detail justifying each. When I mean "one man and one woman", I am not referring to biological sex. As the philosopher Otto Weininger wrote in 'Sex and Character', there exist male and female aspects. He believed that the male aspect was "active" while the female aspect is "passive". I disagree, and believe in a more Hegelian approach. The male aspect needs an equal and opposite reaction, which is the female aspect. Synthesised, both of these aspects combine into a union (So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.— Jesus[Matthew 19:6]). Marriage is thus the sublimation of these contradictory forms. This is vitally important for the social cohesion of human civilization. This is based on the observations of J.D.Unwin, who examined the sexual mores of countless cultures. What he found was that the productivity of a culture is based on abstinence and long term monogamous marriage. This should be promoted by various policies, one of which is the raising of the age of consent (which is not out of reason, the age of consent in Tunisia is 20). This is also consistent with Plato's teachings in Πολιτεία, where guardians get married at age 25 at the earliest. The reasoning for this is basically the same as above. The world spirit is in decay. In this context, "drugs" refers to any recreational substance 'stronger' than ethanol (this is a very rough definition, but please bear with me). The problem with drugs is, not only do they poison the individuals body with foul miasma, but are memetically infectious to society. They are the exact opposite of the Form of Good. This is why our greatest president, Lyndon B. Johnson enacted the "war on drugs" (I prefer to call it a struggle). People rightly point out that this has turned out to be a failure, and I agree. What I disagree with is the promotion of disengagement and legalization. This would be like shooting a baby in the foot. Model civilizations such as Singapore have shown that by increasing the penalties for drug users, we can successfully protect the harmony of civilization. The rationalist/empiricist divide is well known in philosophy. What isn't know is that this is a struggle against good and evil. For example, Descartes was going to be canonized as a saint, but the machinations of aristotlean influenced senior members in the Roman Catholic Church prevented this from happening. The empiricist John Locke justified slavery through his writings, destroying world balance. This culminated in the total destruction of morality by David Hume, whose name is still invoked by Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill 'The Science Guy' Nye. Action must be taken before these brigands immanentize the eschaton!
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