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Post by Krall on Mar 18, 2016 8:18:57 GMT
Yeah, but this makes more sense where there is any known part of the border. My map covers a substantial area where there is no border of any kind. There are large swathes of land claimed by two sides, but with no crossing, no claimed mark on either side, merely the asserting of territorial rights over broadly defined areas. For example, if France and Germany both claimed the entire Rhine drainage basin as the extent of their respective borders (France, obviously, to the east, Germany to the west) - there's a pretty huge area of overlap there. Undoubtedly there are points where each side has more control than the other, but equally there would be ill-defined and entirely unclear areas where either might stake a claim to authority. Ah, that's more tricky. What the exact situation you're trying to show?
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Post by huojin on Mar 18, 2016 17:36:38 GMT
There are a number of situations with this overlap, but one example is the Pacific North West in the 1790s. There are substantial British claims in the area, as well as Spanish claims. The Nootka Conventions ignored the border (though both had preferred border lines), and despite limited control in the region there's clearly a need to document the border situation.
There might be something worth doing if I can figure out how the gradient fill works? Anyone got any advice regarding that?
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Apr 30, 2016 18:54:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure this was asked earlier in the chatbox, but I'd like a more permanent place to reference: How do you, in Inkscape, connect an endnode to another line?
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Post by Krall on Apr 30, 2016 19:31:28 GMT
I'm pretty sure this was asked earlier in the chatbox, but I'd like a more permanent place to reference: How do you, in Inkscape, connect an endnode to another line? If you select two endnodes with the "Edit paths by nodes" tool then the fifth button along the top should be "Join selected endnodes with a new segment", which should connect those two lines together by drawing a line segment between the selected endnodes. You can also select the endnodes and use the third button along the top ("Join selected nodes") to fuse them into one node. Let me know if this helps!
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on May 1, 2016 3:55:47 GMT
I'm pretty sure this was asked earlier in the chatbox, but I'd like a more permanent place to reference: How do you, in Inkscape, connect an endnode to another line? If you select two endnodes with the "Edit paths by nodes" tool then the fifth button along the top should be "Join selected endnodes with a new segment", which should connect those two lines together by drawing a line segment between the selected endnodes. You can also select the endnodes and use the third button along the top ("Join selected nodes") to fuse them into one node. Let me know if this helps! Well, what I meant was connecting an end node to the middle of another path, not to an endnode (assuming it's possible)
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Post by Krall on May 1, 2016 11:08:49 GMT
Well, what I meant was connecting an end node to the middle of another path, not to an endnode (assuming it's possible) I'm afraid that's not possible - lines can't split like that. You could have the endnode connect to a node that is in the exact same position as a middle node in another path (by clicking on the endnode with the pen tool and drawing another line segment out from it, then using the "Edit paths by node" to select the middle node to find out what its X and Y co-ordinates are then selecting the new endnode and copy-pasting the X and Y co-ordinates of the middle node into its X and Y fields), but you can't actually connect it to the middle of that other path, sorry.
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Post by Jocke on May 1, 2016 13:05:16 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps
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Post by Krall on May 1, 2016 15:12:10 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps I'm afraid I don't use GIMP, though I think I know how to achieve that effect in Inkscape. Are you looking for a sort of inset thick border, like the one on this map of yours?
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Post by Jocke on May 1, 2016 16:53:33 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps I'm afraid I don't use GIMP, though I think I know how to achieve that effect in Inkscape. Are you looking for a sort of inset thick border, like the one on this map of yours? Yes, exactly. I guess I'll have to download Inkscape only to do that then. Thanks for the answer anyways
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Post by Krall on May 1, 2016 19:23:37 GMT
Yes, exactly. I guess I'll have to download Inkscape only to do that then. Thanks for the answer anyways I'm sure there's someway to do it in GIMP, but I don't know what it is. In Inkscape you take the border line, copy it, paste it in place (ctrl+alt+V, or the option in the Edit menu) and use the Inset function under the Path menu to move the line inwards. Let me know if you want a more detailed explanation/have any trouble with Inkscape.
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on May 1, 2016 19:31:00 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps Hello, resident GIMP expert on the site. Do you mean having that nice darker shade of said nation's color right along the border, for example like it is here: or here: All you have to do is quickly draw a pixel-wide line for your border (I recommend doing all the borders first, perferably in black, with the pencil tool), than of course color in your countries. After you're done with that, use the 'select by color' tool and select the borders, then go up to the 'select' scroll down menu at the top, and select the 'grow selection tool.' grow it however large you want the borders to be. If you don't want the oceans to have a border, you simply deselect them by using the select tool, holding control than clicking on it. Take your pencil tool, lower the opacity down to about 20-50, and just color said selected area.
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Post by Jocke on May 1, 2016 19:58:14 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps Hello, resident GIMP expert on the site. Do you mean having that nice darker shade of said nation's color right along the border, for example like it is here: or here: All you have to do is quickly draw a pixel-wide line for your border (I recommend doing all the borders first, perferably in black, with the pencil tool), than of course color in your countries. After you're done with that, use the 'select by color' tool and select the borders, then go up to the 'select' scroll down menu at the top, and select the 'grow selection tool.' grow it however large you want the borders to be. If you don't want the oceans to have a border, you simply deselect them by using the select tool, holding control than clicking on it. Take your pencil tool, lower the opacity down to about 20-50, and just color said selected area. Thank you so much, I will try this next time I am working with my maps
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Post by lordroel on May 2, 2016 14:10:12 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps Sorry cannot help you with that, my maps are not great and thus i am also a very big noob in map making.
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Post by Jocke on May 2, 2016 14:18:19 GMT
Does anyone have a good way of drawing well looking borders in gimp? Yeah sure, I can always just draw a line, but I want to make a more fat border with the two bordering nations colors reflecting them if you know what I mean. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of a noob when it comes to making maps Sorry cannot help you with that, my maps are not great and thus i am also a very big noob in map making. Minnesotanationalist's tips worked super well for me. You should try them
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Post by lordroel on May 2, 2016 14:20:28 GMT
Sorry cannot help you with that, my maps are not great and thus i am also a very big noob in map making. Minnesotanationalist's tips worked super well for me. You should try them tips is one thing, getting to work is another, if you see my maps you see that they are very noobish in nature.
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Post by Jocke on May 2, 2016 14:36:24 GMT
Minnesotanationalist's tips worked super well for me. You should try them tips is one thing, getting to work is another, if you see my maps you see that they are very noobish in nature. I don't think I've seen your maps, but you know the only way to improve is mostly grinding your skills up, atleast in my case
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Post by lordroel on May 2, 2016 14:37:28 GMT
tips is one thing, getting to work is another, if you see my maps you see that they are very noobish in nature. I don't think I've seen your maps, but you know the only way to improve is mostly grinding your skills up, atleast in my case Check my link at the bottom, they are all at my forum, i am to embarrassed to place them here among the many great works.
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Post by Jocke on May 2, 2016 14:46:08 GMT
I don't think I've seen your maps, but you know the only way to improve is mostly grinding your skills up, atleast in my case Check my link at the bottom, they are all at my forum, i am to embarrassed to place them here among the many great works. Mate, I'm not super good at this either, but I have learnt a lot from just sitting and redrawing coastlines from old atlas maps and drawing up borders and just trying to make it look good, my suggestion is just to select a small area of a map and redraw it and do whatever with it. I think a lot of grinding doing this gets you better eventually. I mean I started a week ago or so trying to actually make good looking maps and from when I began to now I have improved a lot (In my opinion). I have thought about just making a small tutorial of what I already know, just maybe a short 3-4 minute video or something around that. Would anyone be intressted or would it be a waste of time?
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Post by lordroel on May 2, 2016 14:59:47 GMT
Check my link at the bottom, they are all at my forum, i am to embarrassed to place them here among the many great works. Mate, I'm not super good at this either, but I have learnt a lot from just sitting and redrawing coastlines from old atlas maps and drawing up borders and just trying to make it look good, my suggestion is just to select a small area of a map and redraw it and do whatever with it. I think a lot of grinding doing this gets you better eventually. I mean I started a week ago or so trying to actually make good looking maps and from when I began to now I have improved a lot (In my opinion). I have thought about just making a small tutorial of what I already know, just maybe a short 3-4 minute video or something around that. Would anyone be intressted or would it be a waste of time? I am still at the blank map of earth stage and coloring it.
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Post by Jocke on May 2, 2016 15:02:26 GMT
Mate, I'm not super good at this either, but I have learnt a lot from just sitting and redrawing coastlines from old atlas maps and drawing up borders and just trying to make it look good, my suggestion is just to select a small area of a map and redraw it and do whatever with it. I think a lot of grinding doing this gets you better eventually. I mean I started a week ago or so trying to actually make good looking maps and from when I began to now I have improved a lot (In my opinion). I have thought about just making a small tutorial of what I already know, just maybe a short 3-4 minute video or something around that. Would anyone be intressted or would it be a waste of time? I am still at the blank map of earth stage and coloring it. Well there's your problem I think I dont remember who, but some map maker once shared this site which is awesome. I feel bad for not being able to credit this person but whatever, here it is, www.davidrumsey.com/view/atlases
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