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Post by tardis218 on Jan 17, 2016 15:44:12 GMT
Yes, at the moment the war that the Russian nationalists in the Ukraine is currently a stand-still. The latest news of the fronts was from a Vice documentary I watched a few months back. What do you think will happen to the Donetsk People's Republic
and the Luhansk People's Republic
in the next few years? I have a few idea but I'm a bit unsure about them. I would be interested in what you guys think the future of the Ukraine holds.
(This is political, but since it's future history, this is in the right place?)
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Post by Epic History on Jan 17, 2016 20:28:53 GMT
Back in 2014, in light of some emerging evidence that the Right Sector was carrying out war crimes, I predicted a large enough massacre of Russo-phones by the aforementioned group would force a direct Russian military response. Obviously, that's not happened since then, but I still feel it's a distinct possibility. In the event of such a conflict, NATO would remain out but supply weapons as well as "advisers". Basically the Russians would take all of the Russian speaking areas plus all of the Ukrainian territories up to the Dnieper sans Kiev.
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Post by tardis218 on Jan 17, 2016 20:38:02 GMT
Hm, interesting. I kinda imagined that the situation would turn into what happened with Northern Cyprus and Turkey. Sure, it was a military victory, and it did turn into a country. But no recognizes it besides the country that made the nation, and the UN has called a ceasefire and a UN protected border was created.
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Post by Kubo Caskett on Jan 17, 2016 21:29:00 GMT
The whole Ukraine thing's going to end up like Korea with a "West" Ukraine and a "East Ukraine" (which should be Novorossiya). Ukraine might likely be applying to join NATO some after a ceasefire breaks out, unless the government's gutsy enough not so (or dumb enough depending on your point of view). As for Novorossiya, the whole project thing might get revived as soon as the ceasefire ends since well someone's got to be the buffer zone against Ukraine. As soon as he ceasefire happens, you can expect a lot of instability around the region with terrorists on both sides wrecking havoc against Ukraine and Novorossiya.
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Post by orvillethird on Jan 18, 2016 4:31:50 GMT
I have a feeling the situation will not change for some time. I do think the sanctions are likely to end in a year or so, at least from Europe.
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Post by guyverman1990 on Feb 4, 2016 21:59:52 GMT
Putin is a sore loser over Russia loosing the Cold War.
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Post by orvillethird on Mar 28, 2016 3:51:06 GMT
There is a good chance that Ukraine will face some shakeups. Their economy is declining FAR faster than Russia is. There are rumors of a new PM (either Volodymyr Groysman or Natalie Jaresko*), being picked by Poroschenko. Saakashvili is trying to gain influence. * Possibly the worst non-neo-Nazi choice. She made over a million dollars in bonuses (ten times her mandated compensation) investing US Government grants to Ukraine (losing a big chunk of the grant money in the process) www.truth-out.org/news/item/33643-how-ukraine-s-finance-chief-got-rich |
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Post by Tyranna on Mar 20, 2018 5:27:25 GMT
Putin is a sore loser over Russia loosing the Cold War. This is all too true; while the Ukraine stalemate may be with us for many years to come, probably the number one motivator of the whole Russian invasion attempt is the Russian Orthodox Church. Could we see an increasing intolerance of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine and the rise of Evangelical Protestant Churches? I heard a report on BBC Radio recently about a Protestant pastor who has helped set up a bakery in the Eastern part of Ukraine next to the Russian-invaded areas, to help provide bread for Ukrainians suffering shortages of food due to the hostilities, and there are lots of other such initiatives across other parts of Ukraine. Maybe there is potential for an Eastern equivalent of the Lutheran Reformation in Western Europe hatching even now in Ukraine which will create a more liberal Western-leaning state, but also with potential for negative sectarian friction with remaining mainly older loyal Russian Orthodox worshippers who are more likely to lean towards Moscow? |
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Post by orvillethird on Sept 11, 2018 14:20:50 GMT
I do know that there are quite a few religious groups in Ukraine of the Evangelical Protestant type- I've even been to a concert by an orchestra from one of them!
I do think that the growing re-awareness of the anti-Semitism from several groups on the Ukraine side may make nations reluctant to aid Kiev.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 11, 2018 20:01:53 GMT
Yes, at the moment the war that the Russian nationalists in the Ukraine is currently a stand-still. The latest news of the fronts was from a Vice documentary I watched a few months back. What do you think will happen to the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic in the next few years? I have a few idea but I'm a bit unsure about them. I would be interested in what you guys think the future of the Ukraine holds. (This is political, but since it's future history, this is in the right place?) Can we say that this war will be a forgotten war as you barely hear about it in the news. |
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Post by futurist on Oct 11, 2018 20:10:31 GMT
Yes, at the moment the war that the Russian nationalists in the Ukraine is currently a stand-still. The latest news of the fronts was from a Vice documentary I watched a few months back. What do you think will happen to the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic in the next few years? I have a few idea but I'm a bit unsure about them. I would be interested in what you guys think the future of the Ukraine holds. (This is political, but since it's future history, this is in the right place?) Can we say that this war will be a forgotten war as you barely hear about it in the news. Yes, we probably can. |
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