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Post by zalezsky on Mar 2, 2016 5:03:57 GMT
Following the Russo-Turkish war of 1877 to 1878, the treaties of San Stefano and Berlin were signed into accordance. The problem was that both conflicted on borders in the Balkans and Caucasus regions. A third treaty signed at Ekaterinodar was signed between the Great Powers and lesser balkan states. It called for a compromise between the previous treaties. Bulgaria would be split in twain, both sides governed by puppet governments of Russia and Ottomans. Western Rumelia was Established as an autonomous region within Turkish Europe to appease the Bulgarians in the region which fought along side Russia to obtain their "Rightful land". Serbia and Montenegro attained minimal gains in the war and were skimmed over during the peace talks. The containment of Russia's massive expansion within the Balkans was on the minds of the rest of the great powers. AND THUS, when the Cossacks marched home, Europe sighed in relief as the Russians slowed their territorial expansion. ------ Disclaimer: Though this is VERY close to what the borders looked like in 1878 the only major difference is Western Rumelia, and a few border tweaks within the balkans. ------ This piece may bring about a mini atlas of this world within the next few months. Enjoy you bunch of swineasaurs First time in a long time doing an entire continent map. WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND LOOKING AT HIGH REZ VERSION FOUND HERE!
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Post by nanwe on Mar 2, 2016 11:12:53 GMT
The administrative map of a UK in which Ares96 and I have been working on. We also have the electoral map (STV constituencies) almost finished (just need to assign the seats in the English constituencies). We have tried to be very British by meshing into an incoherent thing tradition and innovation in the most random and awkward way. All properly British. Right click for a higher quality version.
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Post by nanwe on Mar 2, 2016 11:17:52 GMT
And in pétit comité (but don't tell the Politbrits ), the electoral map, in so far as it stands.
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Post by eDGT on Mar 2, 2016 11:46:43 GMT
The administrative map of a UK in which Ares96 and I have been working on. We also have the electoral map (STV constituencies) almost finished (just need to assign the seats in the English constituencies). We have tried to be very British by meshing into an incoherent thing tradition and innovation in the most random and awkward way. All properly British. Right click for a higher quality version.  Strabane is on the wrong side of the border. I suggest using Letterkenny or Donegal Town.
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Post by nanwe on Mar 2, 2016 12:15:43 GMT
The administrative map of a UK in which Ares96 and I have been working on. We also have the electoral map (STV constituencies) almost finished (just need to assign the seats in the English constituencies). We have tried to be very British by meshing into an incoherent thing tradition and innovation in the most random and awkward way. All properly British. Right click for a higher quality version. Strabane is on the wrong side of the border. I suggest using Letterkenny or Donegal Town. Yeah, i screwed up, it should say Lifford, since it's the county town of Donegal.
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Post by Krall on Mar 2, 2016 12:24:20 GMT
Following the Russo-Turkish war of 1877 to 1878, the treaties of San Stefano and Berlin were signed into accordance. The problem was that both conflicted on borders in the Balkans and Caucasus regions. A third treaty signed at Ekaterinodar was signed between the Great Powers and lesser balkan states. It called for a compromise between the previous treaties. Bulgaria would be split in twain, both sides governed by puppet governments of Russia and Ottomans. Western Rumelia was Established as an autonomous region within Turkish Europe to appease the Bulgarians in the region which fought along side Russia to obtain their "Rightful land". Serbia and Montenegro attained minimal gains in the war and were skimmed over during the peace talks. The containment of Russia's massive expansion within the Balkans was on the minds of the rest of the great powers. AND THUS, when the Cossacks marched home, Europe sighed in relief as the Russians slowed their territorial expansion. ------ Disclaimer: Though this is VERY close to what the borders looked like in 1878 the only major difference is Western Rumelia, and a few border tweaks within the balkans. ------ This piece may bring about a mini atlas of this world within the next few months. Enjoy you bunch of swineasaurs First time in a long time doing an entire continent map. WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND LOOKING AT HIGH REZ VERSION FOUND HERE! Very nice, zalezsky! Though I think the smaller version actually looks better than the full version - it seems like a more appropriate zoom level for the amount of detail. The administrative map of a UK in which Ares96 and I have been working on. We also have the electoral map (STV constituencies) almost finished (just need to assign the seats in the English constituencies). We have tried to be very British by meshing into an incoherent thing tradition and innovation in the most random and awkward way. All properly British. Right click for a higher quality version. Ah, this looks great! Though the "Lincolnshire" label doesn't appear to correspond to an actual constituency. That reminds me, I must get around to finishing off those party logos for you - I hadn't forgotten, but it's taken a backseat to more important responsibilities recently. Would you rather I PM you about it on here or on AH.com?
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Post by nanwe on Mar 2, 2016 12:41:07 GMT
Following the Russo-Turkish war of 1877 to 1878, the treaties of San Stefano and Berlin were signed into accordance. The problem was that both conflicted on borders in the Balkans and Caucasus regions. A third treaty signed at Ekaterinodar was signed between the Great Powers and lesser balkan states. It called for a compromise between the previous treaties. Bulgaria would be split in twain, both sides governed by puppet governments of Russia and Ottomans. Western Rumelia was Established as an autonomous region within Turkish Europe to appease the Bulgarians in the region which fought along side Russia to obtain their "Rightful land". Serbia and Montenegro attained minimal gains in the war and were skimmed over during the peace talks. The containment of Russia's massive expansion within the Balkans was on the minds of the rest of the great powers. AND THUS, when the Cossacks marched home, Europe sighed in relief as the Russians slowed their territorial expansion. ------ Disclaimer: Though this is VERY close to what the borders looked like in 1878 the only major difference is Western Rumelia, and a few border tweaks within the balkans. ------ This piece may bring about a mini atlas of this world within the next few months. Enjoy you bunch of swineasaurs First time in a long time doing an entire continent map. WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND LOOKING AT HIGH REZ VERSION FOUND HERE! Very nice, zalezsky! Though I think the smaller version actually looks better than the full version - it seems like a more appropriate zoom level for the amount of detail. The administrative map of a UK in which Ares96 and I have been working on. We also have the electoral map (STV constituencies) almost finished (just need to assign the seats in the English constituencies). We have tried to be very British by meshing into an incoherent thing tradition and innovation in the most random and awkward way. All properly British. Right click for a higher quality version. Ah, this looks great! Though the "Lincolnshire" label doesn't appear to correspond to an actual constituency. That reminds me, I must get around to finishing off those party logos for you - I hadn't forgotten, but it's taken a backseat to more important responsibilities recently. Would you rather I PM you about it on here or on AH.com? That is because Linday, Holland and Kesteven are 'parts' (that is the actual title, like ridings in Yorkshire) of Lincolnshire, which are useful and the main entity for organisation since Lincolnshire is just so darn big and it would be unfair to the more populated Lindsey to put it together with more rural Holland and Kesteven, or the other way around, depending on your perspective. As for the PM, up to you, I will check either way.
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Post by nanwe on Mar 2, 2016 12:42:14 GMT
And a second map: I did not manage to finish it for the previous AH.com MotF, although it is a tad simplistic. The Nestorian Crusade A little map I did not manage to finish on time for the last MotF, basically there's no Islam, and Christianity spreads further, except that Christianity is more divided, into four main branches, ranging from orthodox (Monosedist and Plurisedists Chalcedonians) to misguided (Monophysites) to outright heretical (Nestorians). This, combined with the geopolitical conflict between Sassanids and Byzantines leads to the Nestorian Crusade of the 12th century, which managed to establish the dominance of the Byzantines in Arabia and Mesopotamia, but did nothing to stop the spread of Nestorianism in the Median and Persian plateau and through the Silk Road. Tried a simple, school book style.
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Post by nanwe on Mar 4, 2016 17:54:30 GMT
About three years ago or so, I decided to make a map of what post-war Germany would look like in a concept for a TL that never took place because it would have been too difficult to write or to research and at the time I didn't even have the sources. In any case, I decided to try my lack at the same scenario, to, I don't know, see how my map-making skills have changed and such. And here it is:
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Post by Krall on Mar 4, 2016 19:21:44 GMT
About three years ago or so, I decided to make a map of what post-war Germany would look like in a concept for a TL that never took place because it would have been too difficult to write or to research and at the time I didn't even have the sources. In any case, I decided to try my lack at the same scenario, to, I don't know, see how my map-making skills have changed and such. And here it is: Nice, Nanwe! Definitely an improvement. I also find it interesting that the Western occupied areas united into one country, whereas the Soviet occupied areas are still separated into Austria and Germany. I presume that's because of the geographical gap between them and how small East Austria would be in comparison to East German?
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Post by nanwe on Mar 5, 2016 11:50:42 GMT
About three years ago or so, I decided to make a map of what post-war Germany would look like in a concept for a TL that never took place because it would have been too difficult to write or to research and at the time I didn't even have the sources. In any case, I decided to try my lack at the same scenario, to, I don't know, see how my map-making skills have changed and such. And here it is: Nice, Nanwe! Definitely an improvement. I also find it interesting that the Western occupied areas united into one country, whereas the Soviet occupied areas are still separated into Austria and Germany. I presume that's because of the geographical gap between them and how small East Austria would be in comparison to East German? I hope so Well, originally Austria was not meant to join the Federal Republic, but a rump western half of Austria (and the rural, agrarian half at that!) was an unworkable state, so the Allies kind of permitted the western Austrians to join in. Adenauer was delighted, of course, they were Catholics, non-Prussian and conservative, so ideal CDU voters. And would made up for the fact that Adenauer agreed to/conceded to the independence of the Saar as a European territory home to the European institutions and its progressive transformation into a Franco-German bilingual state.
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Post by Chicxulub on Mar 5, 2016 19:52:14 GMT
Here is my current progress on the County-BAM.
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Post by Krall on Mar 5, 2016 21:23:41 GMT
I hope so Well, originally Austria was not meant to join the Federal Republic, but a rump western half of Austria (and the rural, agrarian half at that!) was an unworkable state, so the Allies kind of permitted the western Austrians to join in. Adenauer was delighted, of course, they were Catholics, non-Prussian and conservative, so ideal CDU voters. And would made up for the fact that Adenauer agreed to/conceded to the independence of the Saar as a European territory home to the European institutions and its progressive transformation into a Franco-German bilingual state. Ah, interesting! Are you thinking of making more maps set in this world? I'd love to see what the Saar European territory is like! Here is my current progress on the County-BAM. Whoa, that must've taken ages! Great work on it so far, though!
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Post by ToixStory on Mar 6, 2016 19:43:47 GMT
About three years ago or so, I decided to make a map of what post-war Germany would look like in a concept for a TL that never took place because it would have been too difficult to write or to research and at the time I didn't even have the sources. In any case, I decided to try my lack at the same scenario, to, I don't know, see how my map-making skills have changed and such. And here it is: [snip] Wow, fantastic job, Nanwe! Very interesting alternate scenario, you've really been killing it with maps lately. Not much more to say about it, really, besides that it seems pretty great. Though I wonder how well that mini-Austrian state would actually work.
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Mar 7, 2016 21:21:22 GMT
What Is Europe but East and West?A scenario where Napoleon and Alexander's Alliance of 1807 doesn't break down (or at least as early). ------------------------------------------------------- In November of 1807, Napoleon launches a campaign against the Ottomans, aiding his ally of Russia, but the Ottomans proved a tougher fight than suspected, and it didn't help that Alexander and Napoleon were constantly bickering (mostly Napoleon's fault), leading to Napoleon to withdraw from the Ottoman Campaign numerous times for a couple of months, before the Ottomans finally surrendered in 1814. Alexander and Napoleon met at Sofia to finally try to settle their differences, leading to the "1,000 Agreements of Sofia," where Napoleon and Alexander continuously gave concessions to each other, dividing the influence of Europe. In general, Napoleon wanted influence over the Catholics and Romance people, while Alexander wanted sway over the Orthodox and Slavic people. Well, they'd be butting heads over the Catholic Slavs and the Romanians. While Napoleon did cede concession over Romania, Alexander and Napoleon did debate harshly over Poland and Yugoslavs. They finally came to the conclusion of shared influence over the two states of Poland and Serbia. among other things, Greece was declared shared influence in return for Russia getting Constantinople, Russia getting Antioch and Jerusalem (under puppets) for shared influence over Albania, a 'press here to divide button' for Sweden between both France and Russia, and according to legend, Alexander would accept all French annexations up to this point if Napoleon would cut off one of his generals fingers. With the vast majority of Europe now divided between Napoleon and his allies, Napoleon's ambition seems to be over, if it weren't for that Alexander's and Napoleon's relations started to deteriorate once more, leading to the breaking of the alliance in 1816, although Alexander's embargo of the UK continued (to explain in Alexander's own words, "I hate England, too."), and so the world has divided the world into 3 major spheres: The French Sphere, the Russian Sphere, and the British Sphere (There's also the Post-Turkish Sphere, but their interest tend to remain aligned with the British Sphere). Alexander of Russia died in 1825, leaving the nation and it's sphere to his younger (and admittedly, somewhat incompetent) brother. Napoleon himself died in 1831, leading to the rise of Napoleon II, who was much more competent that Alexander's own heir, but still not as great as his own father.
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Post by Krall on Mar 7, 2016 22:41:04 GMT
What Is Europe but East and West?A scenario where Napoleon and Alexander's Alliance of 1807 doesn't break down (or at least as early). ------------------------------------------------------- In November of 1807, Napoleon launches a campaign against the Ottomans, aiding his ally of Russia, but the Ottomans proved a tougher fight than suspected, and it didn't help that Alexander and Napoleon were constantly bickering (mostly Napoleon's fault), leading to Napoleon to withdraw from the Ottoman Campaign numerous times for a couple of months, before the Ottomans finally surrendered in 1814. Alexander and Napoleon met at Sofia to finally try to settle their differences, leading to the "1,000 Agreements of Sofia," where Napoleon and Alexander continuously gave concessions to each other, dividing the influence of Europe. In general, Napoleon wanted influence over the Catholics and Romance people, while Alexander wanted sway over the Orthodox and Slavic people. Well, they'd be butting heads over the Catholic Slavs and the Romanians. While Napoleon did cede concession over Romania, Alexander and Napoleon did debate harshly over Poland and Yugoslavs. They finally came to the conclusion of shared influence over the two states of Poland and Serbia. among other things, Greece was declared shared influence in return for Russia getting Constantinople, Russia getting Antioch and Jerusalem (under puppets) for shared influence over Albania, a 'press here to divide button' for Sweden between both France and Russia, and according to legend, Alexander would accept all French annexations up to this point if Napoleon would cut off one of his generals fingers. With the vast majority of Europe now divided between Napoleon and his allies, Napoleon's ambition seems to be over, if it weren't for that Alexander's and Napoleon's relations started to deteriorate once more, leading to the breaking of the alliance in 1816, although Alexander's embargo of the UK continued (to explain in Alexander's own words, "I hate England, too."), and so the world has divided the world into 3 major spheres: The French Sphere, the Russian Sphere, and the British Sphere (There's also the Post-Turkish Sphere, but their interest tend to remain aligned with the British Sphere). Alexander of Russia died in 1825, leaving the nation and it's sphere to his younger (and admittedly, somewhat incompetent) brother. Napoleon himself died in 1831, leading to the rise of Napoleon II, who was much more competent that Alexander's own heir, but still not as great as his own father. Nice map, MN! Though the French sphere looks a bit odd, as it's a similar colour to the ocean. Is Constantinople part of Russia, or is it part of Bulgaria (a Russian puppet)?
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Mar 7, 2016 23:07:30 GMT
What Is Europe but East and West?A scenario where Napoleon and Alexander's Alliance of 1807 doesn't break down (or at least as early). ------------------------------------------------------- In November of 1807, Napoleon launches a campaign against the Ottomans, aiding his ally of Russia, but the Ottomans proved a tougher fight than suspected, and it didn't help that Alexander and Napoleon were constantly bickering (mostly Napoleon's fault), leading to Napoleon to withdraw from the Ottoman Campaign numerous times for a couple of months, before the Ottomans finally surrendered in 1814. Alexander and Napoleon met at Sofia to finally try to settle their differences, leading to the "1,000 Agreements of Sofia," where Napoleon and Alexander continuously gave concessions to each other, dividing the influence of Europe. In general, Napoleon wanted influence over the Catholics and Romance people, while Alexander wanted sway over the Orthodox and Slavic people. Well, they'd be butting heads over the Catholic Slavs and the Romanians. While Napoleon did cede concession over Romania, Alexander and Napoleon did debate harshly over Poland and Yugoslavs. They finally came to the conclusion of shared influence over the two states of Poland and Serbia. among other things, Greece was declared shared influence in return for Russia getting Constantinople, Russia getting Antioch and Jerusalem (under puppets) for shared influence over Albania, a 'press here to divide button' for Sweden between both France and Russia, and according to legend, Alexander would accept all French annexations up to this point if Napoleon would cut off one of his generals fingers. With the vast majority of Europe now divided between Napoleon and his allies, Napoleon's ambition seems to be over, if it weren't for that Alexander's and Napoleon's relations started to deteriorate once more, leading to the breaking of the alliance in 1816, although Alexander's embargo of the UK continued (to explain in Alexander's own words, "I hate England, too."), and so the world has divided the world into 3 major spheres: The French Sphere, the Russian Sphere, and the British Sphere (There's also the Post-Turkish Sphere, but their interest tend to remain aligned with the British Sphere). Alexander of Russia died in 1825, leaving the nation and it's sphere to his younger (and admittedly, somewhat incompetent) brother. Napoleon himself died in 1831, leading to the rise of Napoleon II, who was much more competent that Alexander's own heir, but still not as great as his own father. Nice map, MN! Though the French sphere looks a bit odd, as it's a similar colour to the ocean. Is Constantinople part of Russia, or is it part of Bulgaria (a Russian puppet)? Constantinople is part of Russia
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Post by Krall on Mar 7, 2016 23:43:42 GMT
Constantinople is part of Russia Ah, I guess direct control of the Bosphorus would be useful. I'm interested to see what happens next - does the Franco-Russian division of Europe stand or shatter?
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Post by ankh on Mar 9, 2016 16:47:41 GMT
Here's the first map I have made on Inkscape. Basically the British intervene against the Polish Partition and even convince the Austrians to join them. The French then join the British side as well. The Austro-Franco-British Alliance eventually won the war, which became known as the 9 Years War. 20 years later the Poles, Austrians and Russians set aside their differences to enact the Greek Plan. The Ottomans were routed by the Austro-Russo-Polish Alliance and the Ottoman European territories were partitioned. Austria gained Wallachia, Bosnia and northern Serbia. The Poles gained Moldavia and the Russians gained lands in the Caucasus. Finally the remaining Ottoman territories in Europe were used to create a restored Byzantine Empire as a Russian puppet. IN the mean time, the HRE was dissolved and the German states re-organised, to Austria's advantage. So, Europe in 1850:
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Post by Krall on Mar 9, 2016 17:21:38 GMT
Here's the first map I have made on Inkscape. Basically the British intervene against the Polish Partition and even convince the Austrians to join them. The French then join the British side as well. The Austro-Franco-British Alliance eventually won the war, which became known as the 9 Years War. 20 years later the Poles, Austrians and Russians set aside their differences to enact the Greek Plan. The Ottomans were routed by the Austro-Russo-Polish Alliance and the Ottoman European territories were partitioned. Austria gained Wallachia, Bosnia and northern Serbia. The Poles gained Moldavia and the Russians gained lands in the Caucasus. Finally the remaining Ottoman territories in Europe were used to create a restored Byzantine Empire as a Russian puppet. IN the mean time, the HRE was dissolved and the German states re-organised, to Austria's advantage. So, Europe in 1850: Not bad! Why's there no colour though? Was that a stylistic choice?
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