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Post by whiteshore on Feb 27, 2016 2:49:04 GMT
OOC: Inspired by The Other Side of Eternity and can you move this to Games and Collaborative Projects? IC: Emperor Anakin I Skywalker of the Galactic Empire is arguably the most important figure in Galactic History since Tarsus Valorum. He, in the aftermath of the Clone Wars, which led to the collapse of the Galactic Republic to a Dark Jedi-Corrupt Senator conspiracy, forged the Galactic Empire along with his wife, Empress Padme Amidala. Emperor Anakin Skywalker led the Galactic Empire through the Galactic Civil War and the Yuuzhan Vong War. He died at the age of 86 and was succeded by Emperor Luke I Skywalker afterwards After his death, most historians have praised him for his reforms to galactic society and government like abolishing slavery, restructuring the military, reforming the decadent Jedi Order into the Monasts and the "Imperial Jedi", and the like and opinion polls have consistently shown that a large majority of the Galactic Population have a positive view on Emperor Anakin I. But recently, a small but vocal grpup of historians have cast doubt on Anakin I's greatness by showing his autocratic side as Imperial edicts, not Senate resolutions were used to pass some of the major actions of Emperor Skywalker, they also point out that he authorized the creation of the Strategic Command Battlestation, a weapon which could theoretically destroy an entire planet (although it was never used as such)? So, what do you think of Emperor Anakin I? Great hero of the Galaxy or Populist dictator? |
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Feb 27, 2016 5:07:23 GMT
He's obviously a Populist dictator, but that doesn't mean he can't be a great hero as well!
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Post by whiteshore on Feb 28, 2016 5:33:03 GMT
What do you think of how he handled the Galactic Civil War? To be sure, Mace Windu and Bail Organa were horrible SOBs, but some of the Imperial commanders were quite ruthless as well.
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Post by punkrockbowler805 on Feb 28, 2016 6:57:16 GMT
Some consider what happened with the Hutts a xenocide, or at least an attempted one. But it was not widely publicized and since the Hutts by and large were considered vile gangsters involved in slavery, the reason for Anakin's actions, drug running and other rackets, there was little outcry at the time to the Annexation of Hutt Space, previously outside the Republic/Empire. Jabba and Gardulla the Hutt's executions on Tattooine was considered fair retribution for his enslavement. However the Nal Hutta and Nar Shadaa occupations and the Kadjic Cullings due to the numbers killed could be considered genocide, since there was an insistence on Hutts at all levels of the syndicates being eliminated.
Then there are the rumors about his treatment of his immediate family. You see how sullen or terrified Empress Padme looks in holos, especially in the early years. There are rumors he was highly abusive towards both Luke and Leia and some say Luke's hand was cut off during a domestic argument and required cybernetic replacement. However, his grandson by Leia appears quite, quite devoted to him in holos and regularly visits the tomb since his death and has made public pronouncements about "finishing what he started".
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Feb 28, 2016 7:33:40 GMT
What happened to the Hutts were completely out of Anakin's control (or at least so I remember), it was committed by the Generals there (I'm sorry, I don't remember his name either. My knowledge of this event is fairly limited. I think it was Ackbar, but I'm pretty sure he was on other side of the galaxy, maybe even with the other side of the belligerents.)
If I remember correctly, the reason for Padme's distress laid not with Anakin, but with his cabinet and councilors, who were starting to get quite hostile before being let go (executed maybe?). Luke's hand though I remember for certern was cut off during a sparring session between Luke and Anakin using real lightsabres, although I guess by some this could be considered domestic abus.
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Post by whiteshore on Feb 28, 2016 9:25:30 GMT
Some consider what happened with the Hutts a xenocide, or at least an attempted one. But it was not widely publicized and since the Hutts by and large were considered vile gangsters involved in slavery, the reason for Anakin's actions, drug running and other rackets, there was little outcry at the time to the Annexation of Hutt Space, previously outside the Republic/Empire. Jabba and Gardulla the Hutt's executions on Tattooine was considered fair retribution for his enslavement. However the Nal Hutta and Nar Shadaa occupations and the Kadjic Cullings due to the numbers killed could be considered genocide, since there was an insistence on Hutts at all levels of the syndicates being eliminated. Then there are the rumors about his treatment of his immediate family. You see how sullen or terrified Empress Padme looks in holos, especially in the early years. There are rumors he was highly abusive towards both Luke and Leia and some say Luke's hand was cut off during a domestic argument and required cybernetic replacement. However, his grandson by Leia appears quite, quite devoted to him in holos and regularly visits the tomb since his death and has made public pronouncements about "finishing what he started". What Anakin did to the Hutts was probably miniscule compared to what Mace Windu and Bail Organa would have done had their conspiracy to take over the galaxy succeded as Windu and Organa, if captured Rebel documents are to believed, had a coordinated plan to enslave or kill most non-humans, with several species marked for "total extermination". It is then fortunate that Anakin's decisive leadership, while in some cases brutal, prevented an even bigger crime against the sentients of the Galaxy. |
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Post by punkrockbowler805 on Feb 28, 2016 21:17:38 GMT
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm a Twi'lek, and its not like I like what Hutts did to our women, but the problem with black market slavery of our women persists despite the anti-slavery ban because Ryloth is backward and our local leaders think it gets us access to off world technology. But he was somewhat...indiscriminate during the Kadjic cullings. He killed some Twi'leks on the assumption they worked for the Hutts when alot were slaves and unwilling. I mean, if say my girlfriend, had been a dancer and his troops offed her, I'd say that's unjust.
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Post by punkrockbowler805 on Feb 28, 2016 21:18:40 GMT
I mean, I'm just being hypothetical there. Only one of my clan worked for a Hutt, my uncle Bib Fortuna. He got killed with Jabba, but few really liked him.
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Post by whiteshore on Feb 29, 2016 9:12:20 GMT
If you want proof the Rebels were evil SOBs, read Fleet Admiral (retired) Natasi Daala's book "The Alderaan Campaign". It weaves together declassified Imperial documents, testimonies of Imperial and Rebel troops, and the author's testimony to provide a grim image of Rebel actions in Bail Organa's homeworld.
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Post by whiteshore on Mar 7, 2016 10:02:55 GMT
Any takers?
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