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Post by futurist on Jan 2, 2019 23:43:20 GMT
In the mid-1890s, there were large-scale massacres of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacresWhat if Russian Tsar Nicholas II would have decided to militarily intervene to protect the Ottoman Empire's Armenian population? In this war, Nicholas declares that Russia is only interested in the Armenian vilayets of the Ottoman Empire plus Trebizond and has no interest in capturing the Straits during this war. While Nicholas sends most of his troops to fight the Ottoman Empire, he keeps some troops near Russia's other borders as insurance in the event of a military intervention by Germany, Austria-Hungary, Britain, and/or Japan. Anyway, how would such a war have went? Also, would any other powers have militarily intervened in this conflict? |
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Post by futurist on Jan 5, 2019 6:18:06 GMT
I just realized that a Russian military intervention in the Ottoman Empire in the mid-1890s might result in these killings being massively accelerated by the Ottomans. Indeed, this is something which one should keep in mind when deciding whether or not to intervene. Of course, if the Ottomans begin slaughtering Armenians in even greater numbers, then this would very likely decrease the odds of any other Great Power militarily intervening in this conflict--at least if Russia limits itself to Ottoman Armenia and Trebizond and does not go for the Straits.
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Post by MarshalBraginsky on Jan 12, 2019 21:33:37 GMT
Most likely that Russia would instead sponsor a massive revolt within the Five Viyalets (where Armenians are a majority) where as the Ottomans would incite the Caucasian Muslims to revolt against Russian rule.
In essence though, it might be more feasible if it was just limited to the Armenian tragedy and not another opportunity to go straight for the Bosporus.
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Post by futurist on Jan 13, 2019 0:46:25 GMT
Most likely that Russia would instead sponsor a massive revolt within the Five Viyalets (where Armenians are a majority) where as the Ottomans would incite the Caucasian Muslims to revolt against Russian rule. In essence though, it might be more feasible if it was just limited to the Armenian tragedy and not another opportunity to go straight for the Bosporus. Such a revolt would probably be crushed without direct Russian military intervention, though. Also, completely agreed that Russia should not go for the Straits in this war in order to avoid antagonizing and provoking the other Great Powers. |
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Post by steve59 on Jan 13, 2019 11:30:19 GMT
I just realized that a Russian military intervention in the Ottoman Empire in the mid-1890s might result in these killings being massively accelerated by the Ottomans. Indeed, this is something which one should keep in mind when deciding whether or not to intervene. Of course, if the Ottomans begin slaughtering Armenians in even greater numbers, then this would very likely decrease the odds of any other Great Power militarily intervening in this conflict--at least if Russia limits itself to Ottoman Armenia and Trebizond and does not go for the Straits.
Sorry missed this earlier. I suspect if they did launch such an attack its likely to deny the Ottomans much time for such massacres. At least I hope so. Not sure if going as far as Trebizond would be possible either militarily or politically but bringing the Armenian regions under Russia protection could save a lot of lives. Of course those Armenians outside those regions are likely to suffer badly as a result.
The Russians seriously mauled the Ottomans in was it ~1878 and the latter performed badly in the 1st Balkan War so suspect it would go badly for them militarily so should be well withing Russian capacity, especially assuming a competent Nicholas.
One other option to limit opposition to the Ottomans being driven from the Armenian lands might be if it was set up as an independent state - although likely to be effectively a Russia protectorate at least in the short term.
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