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Post by eDGT on Jun 9, 2017 9:16:31 GMT
The DUP are going to get the Conservatives a government, and I hope you pansy ass English like having American-style Christian Conservatives braying in Downing Street, cause we just gave them to you, free of charge and all.
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Post by Krall on Jun 9, 2017 12:10:33 GMT
The DUP are going to get the Conservatives a government, and I hope you pansy ass English like having American-style Christian Conservatives braying in Downing Street, cause we just gave them to you, free of charge and all. I'm hoping this gets the Conservatives tied up in scandals and gaffes by the DUP, though worried because - between the coalition with the DUP and gaining UKIP's voters - it seems like the Conservatives are rapidly sliding towards the extreme right. We'll have to see. At the very least I feel this situation is an improvement. |
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Post by MinnesotaNationalist on Jun 9, 2017 12:44:27 GMT
Can someone get me a source for this? I got it off Wikipedia
"They (the DUP) believe that dinosaurs never existed and they their bones were placed there by pre-historic homosexuals with nationalist agendas to fool 'right thinking and good presdetarian people'."
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Post by eDGT on Jun 9, 2017 12:54:29 GMT
Can someone get me a source for this? I got it off Wikipedia "They (the DUP) believe that dinosaurs never existed and they their bones were placed there by pre-historic homosexuals with nationalist agendas to fool 'right thinking and good presdetarian people'." One of my former MLAs and ex-Culture Minister, Nelson McCausland. He's lost his seat in the Assembly election. That quote ain't exactly true, probably edited by myself one drunken night, but he does believe dinosaur bones are a conspiracy, and he tried to get a display on Creationism into the Ulster Museum. He's a bit extreme on the Christian front, but most of the party does despise Catholics and homosexuals with a passion. As to yourself Krall, my seat was nearly won by Sinn Fein last night so I'm a bit too meh atm to see a positive. My first time voting SF and it was their biggest turnout ever, if the SDLP (the other nationalist party) hadn't put forward a 20-something nobody who barely scraped 2,000 votes then Sinn Fein might actually have taken North Belfast and fuged the DUPs perfect score a little bit. |
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Post by steve59 on Jun 9, 2017 14:31:03 GMT
No toughed but it confirms it, polls should be outlawed and never to be used again, we have seen it in the past year they are not telling the truth. I don't know about that but there was definitely a range of results being gathered. Unless your actually saying that some polling organisations were deliberately producing false reports? Presume you mean more that many have just been inaccurate, or possible that people being polled have been giving false responses? I know the latter has been a problem in the past, although I thought the pollsters have produced methods to screen most of that out? There definitely seems to have been problems with some polls although others seem to have gone in the right direction and the exit poll was pretty accurate. There may be a case for a ban on polls in the last few days - think the French have something like that? - but I doubt it would be effective banning them totally. Especially since that would probably mean the parties simply produce their own 'estimates' or whatever they call them or simply both/each claim much higher success than they really expect. |
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Post by steve59 on Jun 9, 2017 14:35:16 GMT
The DUP are going to get the Conservatives a government, and I hope you pansy ass English like having American-style Christian Conservatives braying in Downing Street, cause we just gave them to you, free of charge and all. I'm not sure its going to be enough, even with the effective support of Sinn Fein - since they refuse to take their seats which makes the 'coalition' a little stronger. Even if May doesn't get deposed I strongly suspect we will be voting again before the year is out. Plus since Britain has I think a more liberal stance that the US on many social issues any excesses by the DUP and elements of the Tory right are likely to weaken them further. |
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Post by steve59 on Jun 9, 2017 14:46:00 GMT
The DUP are going to get the Conservatives a government, and I hope you pansy ass English like having American-style Christian Conservatives braying in Downing Street, cause we just gave them to you, free of charge and all. I'm hoping this gets the Conservatives tied up in scandals and gaffes by the DUP, though worried because - between the coalition with the DUP and gaining UKIP's voters - it seems like the Conservatives are rapidly sliding towards the extreme right. We'll have to see. At the very least I feel this situation is an improvement. I wouldn't say sliding towards the extreme right as their been there, by most British standards, for quite a while. However don't forget that while the DUP may be a fairly right wing group ever bit as unpleasant as Sinn Fein in many ways UKIP was, despite some people wishing to claim otherwise, a pretty broad church. As demonstrated by its collapse boosting Labour as well as the Tories. Furthermore I would say the key thing that has kept the Tories in touching distance of a new government is their success in Scotland, which seems to be largely moderate nationalist [for the UK] reacting against the SNP's insistence on a new referendum on Scottish independence so quickly. All three other parties made gains here but the Tories were the biggest winners and without that even the DUS and SF wouldn't enable them to cling to power as it looks like they will do for a while. What happens in the Tory party is going to be important and there's likely to be a power struggle even if May stays in charge, which I think is unlikely. There are moderate and hard line exiters as well as remainers, although most of the latter probably accept that's a lost cause now. So the Tory party is likely to have a period of confusion while they sort out where their going with assorted groups who will oppose either fringe meaning that it can't swing too far either way. Unlike in the US for instance where representatives, including the President, are elected for set terms a British government that can't command a majority and get its policies through has to go to the people again rather than stay paraylsed for 5 years. The real dangerous thing is that Britain will be largely rudderless and without clear leadership with the Britexit negotiations due to start up shortly. The EU has already made clear they want a hard Britexit and the sharks might circle even closer now.  |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 28, 2017 13:17:26 GMT
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Post by Krall on Jun 28, 2017 19:13:21 GMT
Huh, I didn't know that was still under investigation - it happened close to 30 years ago! Glad to see it's finally getting resolved, I suppose. |
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Post by steve59 on Jun 28, 2017 20:26:40 GMT
Good news. That was a totally avoidable disaster and the cover-up afterwards was appaling. |
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Post by spanishspy on Dec 10, 2017 6:19:33 GMT
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